Posts by Nathan Natas

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My son is not sure about what he has been taught about the common ancestor

by KateWild in

this week my son expressed he is agnostic as he is not sure what to believe about evolution and the common ancestor.. i thought any jw hang ups were gone.

i told him that what they teach in school is trustworthy and he can be rest assured that there is evidence to support that the common ancestor was the real link to the evolution of humans.. he has got critical thinking skills.

and responded with "for hundreds of years schools have been teaching things and have changed their thoughts".

Nathan Natas

KateWild said, "My point about the amoeba is that it's in cofty's thread which I don't understand which is not high school biology."

You're right Kate, that is not High School Biology - it is JUNIOR High School (now called "Middle School" in the USA) Biology - or it was when I went to Junior High School in 1964. By the way, Gene Simmons of KISS attended the same school!

Where is this backwards High School you complain about? I strongly suspect that it is either not within the borders of the USA or it is an American school that has been lobotomized by political correctness and new-age junk science.

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The Bunker

by TimeBandit in

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i ran across this cool video.

i think it's a parody on some recent jw video series or something.

i'm not up to date on jw news and such.

Nathan Natas

Excellent!

I'm going to post a link to one of my favorites...

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Simon: What happens when you can no longer support this site?

by StephaneLaliberte in

hey simon, .

the recent closure of jwr made me realize that this site may not be eternal as well.

a great deal of people attach a lot of importance to xjw communities and yours is the best.

Nathan Natas

Richard had a library that possibly was only exceeded by the Watchtower archives in Brooklyn. There are a handful of Watchtower archivists across the country, and Richard was well-known and respected by them. Fortunately Richard's library was passed to a person very well known for their own extensive research. I'll let them comment if they wish to identify themselves.

I would like to add a comment. Simon said, "In case anyone is worried, I'm feeling OK."

And may you continue to do so, Sir. But as you probably know, Richard suffered a series of strokes during his adult life as a result of being hit by a truck while crossing the street one day. The strokes gave him his trademarked gravelly voice. Prior to that he had a wonderful public speaking voice, I've been told. Maybe we'll get to hear a recording of him someday... (a few do exist).

Undoubtedly Richard was glad to have survived the initial accident, and his feeling of invulnerability might have been enhanced as he survived a number of additional strokes over time. But he went to sleep one night feeling fine and didn't wake up the next morning.

It is GREAT that you feel well now Simon; it's a perfect time to prepare a will.

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The best way for a witness to wake up, is to simply read the societies own older publications!

by stuckinarut2 in

once again the society is on a push to scare witnesses away from doing any research, or "stumbling" upon any "apostate" material (from workmates, neighbors, or online).

however, the most enlightening, mind blowing and eye opening things are found simple by reading the early publications themselves!.

read how ct russel, (the supposed channel god was using) had the most far fetched and laughable ideas, such as obtaining pivotal dates by measuring the pyramids of egypt!...

Nathan Natas

BluesBrother said, in part, "My family of "old-school " Witnesses just love the old CTR & Rutherford books. They read them and say ..."Of course the thinking has changed since then and some of it is way off beam , but they really had spirituality "

I understand what they mean, I think, and to a degree I agree with them. One of the things Russell stressed was "putting on the personality of Christ" and I believe that most Bible Students of that time - and many Bible Students of today sincerely pursue that goal.

But there are two problems with that, in my opinion. First is that the Christ they emulate is the imaginary weakling so often illustrated. If Jesus did exist, he could not have been such a limp-wristed pansy. I think he would have been more like Clark Kent/Kal-El. Because Russellites were such pathetic weaklings, they allowed Judge Rutherford to have his way with them.

The second thing is that Judge Rutherford, being a sociopath and bully, had no use for the "personality of Christ" game, and so he threw it away, stressing instead what might be "the personality of Don Draper (US TV show "Mad Men")"

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Simon: What happens when you can no longer support this site?

by StephaneLaliberte in

hey simon, .

the recent closure of jwr made me realize that this site may not be eternal as well.

a great deal of people attach a lot of importance to xjw communities and yours is the best.

Nathan Natas

Not to be morbid, but any intelligent human being is aware of their mortality and should, in my opinion, make provision for the disposition of their material goods and intellectual property after they die.

This site and the software it runs on are part of Simon's estate.

A couple of years ago when our friend Richard Rawe died, I was shocked to learn that he never had prepared a will. If it wasn't for the fact that his widow Frances was generally in agreement with the wishes he expressed BUT NEVER PUT INTO A FORMAL WILL, Richard's gigantic library could have been taken to the dump.

In addition to this oversight, Richard left no record of where certain financial resources that belonged to him were located, and so far these resources have NOT BEEN FOUND and so they do not exist as far as Richard's heirs are concerned.

Bottom line: be prudent; accept your mortality and arrange for what happens the day after. Your heirs will thank you.

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Another traveler from JWR

by StarryNight9 in

hi everybody, i'm starrynight from jwr.

that's it... .

Nathan Natas

ZAPPA-ESQUE beat me to it! Well done, Sir!

Welcome StarryNight!

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The best way for a witness to wake up, is to simply read the societies own older publications!

by stuckinarut2 in

once again the society is on a push to scare witnesses away from doing any research, or "stumbling" upon any "apostate" material (from workmates, neighbors, or online).

however, the most enlightening, mind blowing and eye opening things are found simple by reading the early publications themselves!.

read how ct russel, (the supposed channel god was using) had the most far fetched and laughable ideas, such as obtaining pivotal dates by measuring the pyramids of egypt!...

Nathan Natas

Here's a valuable resource:

http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/oldlightreprints?searchTerms=&pageOffset=1

Most titles are available in both hardcopy (printed) and e-book format.

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Intro

by Exjwme in

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you can all call me jess, i guess you can say i'm a "refugee" from jwr.

i'm going to try and keep this short for now, i'm in my early 20s, i was born in but never baptized, i've been mentally out for 7 years and fully out for about 5ish.

despite never having been baptized my fading took quite a bit of time and work.

Nathan Natas

O THANK YOU, Grreat Teacher! (Which of us has a mild ego problem?)

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Intro

by Exjwme in

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you can all call me jess, i guess you can say i'm a "refugee" from jwr.

i'm going to try and keep this short for now, i'm in my early 20s, i was born in but never baptized, i've been mentally out for 7 years and fully out for about 5ish.

despite never having been baptized my fading took quite a bit of time and work.

Nathan Natas

ExJWME,

You did say, " Please feel free to ask me anything!"

Didn't you?

Did you not mean it?

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JWR Alumni

by marlborobarbie in

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hey y'all.

i just wanted to officially make my debut on https://www.jehovahs-witness.com and introduce myself.

i'm an old jwrer, and it looks like i'll be dropping in on here now for cult updates and friendly conversation.. a little about myself:.

Nathan Natas

Hi Marlborobarbie and everyone else who did not start their own thread; here we have plenty of 1s and 0s to go around, so use as many as you like: Simon (through whom all things are made possible) will make more!

Welcome to the board!

I have a JehovahMom too! How many of those did they make?

You said, "If you'd like me to explain anything in detail, feel free to ask. :)"

Please explain EVERYTHING in detail, with extra potty-mouth, please.